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Key Cutting Machine | The SECRET Behind Framon's Part #'s

Fun, quick, helpful fact that I want to give you for your Framon 2 code machine.

I've tried to make a case for the Framon 2 code machine in previous videos and blogs to help you become better at your job. And because I want to give you something, if you own one of these machines or are looking at getting one, it will be helpful. I hope you find this little tip beneficial, mainly because it has to do with part numbers and how the part numbers will help you.

 Framon 2 code machine part numbers

When you buy the machine, the cutter wheels for the Framon 2 comes with the FC8445 cutter. It is somehow the universal standard cutter wheel, but the Framon 2 book might tell you differently.

 cutter wheels on the Framon 2 code machine

Fun fact: FC 8445 is not a made-up part number; it means that 84 (the two first digits) is for the angle or the degree of the cut, and 45 (the second two numbers) is the width or the root of the cut. So that's 84 degrees cut and a .045 width or the root of the cut; a universal. It fits about everything.

By knowing this information, it's going to help you understand what you need to do if you run into problems or you encounter weird situations.

 Part numbers for Framon 2 code machine

Here are three other actual popular cutter wheels. For the SFIC, like the A2 system, the cutter wheel part number is 9054. 90 is the degree, and .54 is the width or the root of that cut. For Kwikset, the cutter wheel part number is 9090. 90 degree and .90 width. Lastly, Schlage, 10031 for the part number, 100 the degree of the angle, and .31 will be the root or the width of the cut.

 part numbers for Framon 2 code machine

Why does this matter when there's a universal cutter width?

If you look at numbers, there is some difference, and it's like many things. Like, the standard cutter is suitable for a lot of things, but not necessarily everything, and kind of what goes with that, once again, is a simple fact that like if you're going to be cutting a lot of Schlage keys or a lot of Kwikset keys, or a lot of SFIC keys. It's good to get the cutter that makes it perfect.

Can you widen the angles when you need to?

Yes, you could do all of those things, and that's what makes it great. Let us use Kwikset as an example to help you understand why this can help you with troubleshooting and different issues. If you're familiar with what a Kwikset bottom pin looks like, it's pretty much flat on both sides. That looks close to almost just a top pin.

 learn about the Framon 2 code machine

And a universal bottom pin, or even like a Schlage bottom pin, will look like this.

 Framon 2 code machine part numbers

Why is it important?

On a Kwikset key, if you ever find yourself in a situation where in one lock the key goes in and turns, and the other one, it doesn't. One of the issues is that one of the locks has universal type pins in it, and another one has the Kwikset OEM type pins in it.

In other words, if the root of the key was cut differently, it's not going to turn. It's going to go up higher because it's not sitting there. But on a universal type pin, it's still going to have enough room in it.

 Framon 2 code machine tips

These will help you when you start trying to troubleshoot or decide what cutter you need to do or understand why the keys are were not working correctly. These will give you an idea that it could be the root or the width base of the cut, or you could not be using the right wheel and the MACS, the Max Adjacent Cut Specification, when doing master key and systems, how you cut the keys. If you're starting to cut them, and they're not cutting correctly, it's taking off more material or leaving extra on. All of those issues can be directly related to the cutter wheel being used. So although this is a Framon 2 video about the part numbers and how that works, the bigger picture here is using the part numbers to help you understand the angles and the width of the cuts you're putting in on the key.

 Framon 2 code machine

I hope this information was helpful. Would you please let me know any questions or what you think in this in the comments below? For a recap, the first two digits are going to be the angle, the degree of the cut, and the second two are going to be the root for the base. Thanks, and I'll see you next time. 


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